How would you see teaching it? What would be included in the curriculum? What skills would be mastered at a foundational level and what traditions would be drawn on in order to honor both the individual and communal/Indigenous aspects of being emotionally connected, intelligent and present/Present, compassionate, discerning, wise, expressive without dominating, empathetic without codependence etc?
I envision some of Daniel Goleman's work, and I think most of our traditions are based on love and respectful communications.
Maybe we'd explore people's backgrounds, or maybe traditions that moved them. I didn't put too much thought into my comment, but I think it's so important to be able to communicate clearly, honestly and kindly, to have empathy and to be able to respectfully disagree when you need to.
And I think there are many kids who don't learn this at home.
YES! I was thinking Daniel Goleman's research too. Also Kristin Neff RE self-compassion research. But I also think Indigenous Wisdom cuts beyond the intellect to the practices that nurture such communication. I would love see more circles of listening and sharing. Here is a simple model I've used with success: everyone gets to hold an object that brings them a sense of calm (could be a crystal, stuffed animal, blankiet, whatever...there is one object for the speaker that is easily distinguishable and known to all. Person 1, asks, "What do you want me to understand?" Person 2 shares while person 1 listens. Person 1 asks, "What else is important for me to understand?" Person 2 expounds or expresses some new angle or element or goes deeper into the feeling and real concerns, as they are heard beyond the superficial level. Person 1 then says, "I what I understand from what you said is..." and they offer reflective listening AKA paraphrase. Then ask, "Did I get it right?" Back to person 1, who confirms or says, "Almost, not quite, that's not it, or whatever is most true. If person 1 got it right, then person 1 asks, "Is there anything else?" And one more round after that, "Is there anything else?" With each round, a paraphrase and a check-in occurs to make sure they got it right. Then they switch and person 1 becomes the primary speaker and person 2 becomes the primary listener. I found when I used this with kids that 9 times out of 10 they had resolved the issue by being understood and were ready to return to play and on the occasions they needed a solution they came up with it on their own or with a little light help.
I love the idea! What a cool book! I could imagine taking it further…why not offer the the experience and let them choose the words as well? Those are all Western words…after all…
I bet in times past, like golden ages the actual phonetics reflected the truth more closely!
I value having that option! What would be some ways you could see it working for the average person? What about families where both parents want to have careers or aren't suited to being full time at home with kids? I think whether in or out of school, learning to grow food holistically, honor Mama/Grandmama Earth, respect others, read, write and do the math that is useful to them (while leaving the abstractions to those with interest) is vital! I homeschooled my kids for most of the time and it was a mixed bag with the kids that God gave me....one needed more social/structure than I could provide and while she read voraciously and became a critical thinker through homeschooling, she wasn't able to take instruction from me... and another who did great with homeschooling when she was little... but she got a bit stuck and I couldn't help her out of her muck...both my daughters have complaints about my unconventional approach...my son generally thrives as a homeschooler, but having that much time "up in his" head without a viable community has been a huge challenge. The homeschooling communities in our area just aren't a fit for our kids. I think homeschooling can be an awesome option, but I think it only works well for some if it's just a family thing...in general I would love to see a local model of learning/being where when isn't so much homeschooling but rather communal learning in localized high frequency pods of kids who can grow and learn together. I've seen parents try to form these types of communities as official homeschool/schools where parents and others with gifts and expertise to offer can teach classes as charter schools but they have an uphill battle for approval. Also, currently homeschooling it isn't an economic option for most, so we'd have to change how we be humanity on fundamental levels, which I'm all for as well...I'd love to see humanity live more was a ecology than an economy...<3 <3 <3
Yes, I completely agree…although I think the spiral can include SOME aspects of tech when harnessed by pure hearted people. My observation is not saying we should adapt to modern life in its dysfunction but offering here we are how can we start now to carve an upward spiral to a holistic way of being…I don’t think self-sufficiency in isolation an Indigenous value - that is more the puritans. The Indigenous functioned through collective land stewardship and communalism, as completely distinguished from communism or stakeholder capitalism. Check out @Steven Schwartzberg’s work on the history of early Indigenous Peoples and the wars they lost in congress for sovereignty actually meaning anything. The allotment act, which is foundation of valuing private property at the expense of communal sovereignty of PEOPLES is one of th ways self-sufficiency AS A PEOPLE was robbed from our Indigenous Sacred Brothers and Sisters. When we give Indigenous Peoples back THEIR full sovereignty (not at the whim to take away by state/nation) we will also have a path for those who no longe want to live under state tyranny who are the descendants of the colonizers…so I agree it’s not profitable to be self-sufficient from those who control blackrock/vanguard and all its subsidiaries and the agendas of those who vacation via private air craft in the alps…but our Individual self-sufficiency is best informed by a sense of our interconnectedness with one another and the sacred land…does that make sense? I believe it will actually take communities coming together in ORDER to become self-sufficient FROM that which seeks to control/exploit/enslave.
Emotional intelligence would be a nice addition.
How would you see teaching it? What would be included in the curriculum? What skills would be mastered at a foundational level and what traditions would be drawn on in order to honor both the individual and communal/Indigenous aspects of being emotionally connected, intelligent and present/Present, compassionate, discerning, wise, expressive without dominating, empathetic without codependence etc?
Hi Alicia,
I envision some of Daniel Goleman's work, and I think most of our traditions are based on love and respectful communications.
Maybe we'd explore people's backgrounds, or maybe traditions that moved them. I didn't put too much thought into my comment, but I think it's so important to be able to communicate clearly, honestly and kindly, to have empathy and to be able to respectfully disagree when you need to.
And I think there are many kids who don't learn this at home.
YES! I was thinking Daniel Goleman's research too. Also Kristin Neff RE self-compassion research. But I also think Indigenous Wisdom cuts beyond the intellect to the practices that nurture such communication. I would love see more circles of listening and sharing. Here is a simple model I've used with success: everyone gets to hold an object that brings them a sense of calm (could be a crystal, stuffed animal, blankiet, whatever...there is one object for the speaker that is easily distinguishable and known to all. Person 1, asks, "What do you want me to understand?" Person 2 shares while person 1 listens. Person 1 asks, "What else is important for me to understand?" Person 2 expounds or expresses some new angle or element or goes deeper into the feeling and real concerns, as they are heard beyond the superficial level. Person 1 then says, "I what I understand from what you said is..." and they offer reflective listening AKA paraphrase. Then ask, "Did I get it right?" Back to person 1, who confirms or says, "Almost, not quite, that's not it, or whatever is most true. If person 1 got it right, then person 1 asks, "Is there anything else?" And one more round after that, "Is there anything else?" With each round, a paraphrase and a check-in occurs to make sure they got it right. Then they switch and person 1 becomes the primary speaker and person 2 becomes the primary listener. I found when I used this with kids that 9 times out of 10 they had resolved the issue by being understood and were ready to return to play and on the occasions they needed a solution they came up with it on their own or with a little light help.
I love this Alicia!
1) whatever kids want to learn
2) prefigurative politics/abolition
3) agroecology/permaculture/rewilding
4) thermoeconomics + archeoastronomy
5) jineology/genealogy of morals
How would you teach it? Those are some big words!
There’s a fun book Teaching with your Mouth Shut that’s helpful. Maybe we’d start with students coming up with definitions.. :)
I love the idea! What a cool book! I could imagine taking it further…why not offer the the experience and let them choose the words as well? Those are all Western words…after all…
I bet in times past, like golden ages the actual phonetics reflected the truth more closely!
In “The Sophia Code” - Hathors age, for example…
I say we keep them out of schools, teach them to grow their own food, respect the land, respect others, read, write and do math.
That’s all they need.
I value having that option! What would be some ways you could see it working for the average person? What about families where both parents want to have careers or aren't suited to being full time at home with kids? I think whether in or out of school, learning to grow food holistically, honor Mama/Grandmama Earth, respect others, read, write and do the math that is useful to them (while leaving the abstractions to those with interest) is vital! I homeschooled my kids for most of the time and it was a mixed bag with the kids that God gave me....one needed more social/structure than I could provide and while she read voraciously and became a critical thinker through homeschooling, she wasn't able to take instruction from me... and another who did great with homeschooling when she was little... but she got a bit stuck and I couldn't help her out of her muck...both my daughters have complaints about my unconventional approach...my son generally thrives as a homeschooler, but having that much time "up in his" head without a viable community has been a huge challenge. The homeschooling communities in our area just aren't a fit for our kids. I think homeschooling can be an awesome option, but I think it only works well for some if it's just a family thing...in general I would love to see a local model of learning/being where when isn't so much homeschooling but rather communal learning in localized high frequency pods of kids who can grow and learn together. I've seen parents try to form these types of communities as official homeschool/schools where parents and others with gifts and expertise to offer can teach classes as charter schools but they have an uphill battle for approval. Also, currently homeschooling it isn't an economic option for most, so we'd have to change how we be humanity on fundamental levels, which I'm all for as well...I'd love to see humanity live more was a ecology than an economy...<3 <3 <3
Really? So how did we survive without schools and grocery stores before?
In my opinion it’s not about adapting to modern life, it’s about reclaiming our old ways!
The native Americans and indigenous cultures did fine before being invaded by modern thinkers.
Many untouched societies are thriving, you just don’t hear about them.
It’s not very profitable to be self sufficient.
I meant it’s not profitable for others to teach how to be self sufficient
Yes, I completely agree…although I think the spiral can include SOME aspects of tech when harnessed by pure hearted people. My observation is not saying we should adapt to modern life in its dysfunction but offering here we are how can we start now to carve an upward spiral to a holistic way of being…I don’t think self-sufficiency in isolation an Indigenous value - that is more the puritans. The Indigenous functioned through collective land stewardship and communalism, as completely distinguished from communism or stakeholder capitalism. Check out @Steven Schwartzberg’s work on the history of early Indigenous Peoples and the wars they lost in congress for sovereignty actually meaning anything. The allotment act, which is foundation of valuing private property at the expense of communal sovereignty of PEOPLES is one of th ways self-sufficiency AS A PEOPLE was robbed from our Indigenous Sacred Brothers and Sisters. When we give Indigenous Peoples back THEIR full sovereignty (not at the whim to take away by state/nation) we will also have a path for those who no longe want to live under state tyranny who are the descendants of the colonizers…so I agree it’s not profitable to be self-sufficient from those who control blackrock/vanguard and all its subsidiaries and the agendas of those who vacation via private air craft in the alps…but our Individual self-sufficiency is best informed by a sense of our interconnectedness with one another and the sacred land…does that make sense? I believe it will actually take communities coming together in ORDER to become self-sufficient FROM that which seeks to control/exploit/enslave.
Exactly communities.
<3